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Postby farhad2008 » Fri Sep 12, 2008 9:52 am

Hi,

I think neobook need a fast compiler that translate to binery
becuase runtime speed is low now and it is not suitable for huge programing application .

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Postby HPW » Fri Sep 12, 2008 10:06 am

I think neobook need a fast compiler that translate to binery
because runtime speed is low now and it is not suitable for huge programing application .


What do you mean with 'low now' ?

Neobook scripting is interpreted since it's first release.
So you should not use it for heavy duty number crunching.
For simple GUI logik it is fast enough.
And there is a plugin interface where you can hook in your native code for harder jobs.

And I think neosoft can not compete with microsoft or borland in the market for native coder tools.
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Postby farhad2008 » Fri Sep 12, 2008 11:32 am

Hi,

sorry for you

if you don't want the neobook improve and better , as you know.

i can not use it for a full application include several table in one database
and a few graphic and it open form with delay . this is low speed

i need fast application
do you understand ?

my english not good , i hope you understand

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Postby Frank » Fri Sep 12, 2008 11:55 am

Hans-Peter,

You are right about the comparison between Neobook and VB or Delphi, but I have to agree too that Neobook is much slower than its last release.

IMHO all the goodies in Neobook are going to count now and although memory does not seem an issue anymore, I'm always trying to keep the final executable as small as possible. Even without plug-ins a simple executable has a tremendous overhead.
Everybody want as much functionality as possible in Neobook, but I think enough is enough.


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Postby HPW » Fri Sep 12, 2008 12:12 pm

You are right about the comparison between Neobook and VB or Delphi, but I have to agree too that Neobook is much slower than its last release.


Do you mean between 5.5.4 and 5.6?
Where it is slower? Startup or script-speed?
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Postby Frank » Fri Sep 12, 2008 12:30 pm

Hans-Peter,

Do you mean between 5.5.4 and 5.6?


Yes

Where it is slower? Startup or script-speed?


Startup and running the script in the development environment - It takes some time to get running...
The compilation is considerably slower too...

Nothing to make a fuss about, but it just worries me I guess.

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Postby phunk » Fri Sep 12, 2008 1:32 pm

i can confirm that - since maybe around 1,5 years the compiled pubs get kinda slower or at least "feel" slower in reaction.

running out of words, not my mother tongue but i guess i get the message across.
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Postby HPW » Fri Sep 12, 2008 1:50 pm

As long a slowdown only affects the development enviroment,
I can live with it. But when the final apps would run slower it would be more serious.

My relative old 1,5 GHZ XP system run slower than the new vista laptops from my kids.
Neosoft has changed the delphi compiler and the runtime-packer to offer the more modern look and feel.
This can all affect the speed of neobook.

But what do we all want from neossoft?
More and more features, speed and small sizes!
I think we can not get all! ;-)
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Postby Neosoft Support » Sun Sep 14, 2008 4:04 pm

Unfortunately, if we add more features NeoBook may get slightly bigger and slightly slower. There's no way around that. However, I can't see any speed difference between NeoBook 5.5.4 and 5.6.

If you're using a real time virus scanner, it can dramatically slow down launching of applications - especially those that change often like NeoBook pubs. Most virus scanners offer an option to turn off real time checking for a specific folder. It makes an incredible difference in the time it takes to test run NeoBook pubs.
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Postby Jay-Bird » Sun Sep 14, 2008 5:52 pm

OMG ... thanks for the tip!

How stupid of me! :shock:

I just tripled or better the speed of running NB itself AND my test.exe's following Daves tip !

I had settled for what I thought was NB Bloat .... but It was my real time virus scanner... back to blazin test runs and compiles!

Thanks a million... put the joy back into a new project!

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Postby Frank » Mon Sep 15, 2008 2:33 am

Hello,

If you're using a real time virus scanner, it can dramatically slow down launching of applications - especially those that change often like NeoBook pubs. Most virus scanners offer an option to turn off real time checking for a specific folder. It makes an incredible difference in the time it takes to test run NeoBook pubs.


Indeed, that's it.
Compilation is very fast, now!

Many thanks !!!

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