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UPX Neobook protection

Postby Alex » Sun Dec 02, 2007 5:32 am

Hi,

I made a program with Neobook and I was on a forum where I ask to crack this program.
A cracker told me that my program was protect with "UPX" !
And he told me that it wasn't a protection but a compression.

What do you think about that ?

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Postby HPW » Sun Dec 02, 2007 5:41 am

He is right. Since there is a decompressor for UPX it is not much protection.
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Postby Alex » Sun Dec 02, 2007 5:42 am

Ho, what have I to use to protect Neobook's program ???
I thought that Neobook Compress and Encrypt ?
It isn't true ?

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Postby HPW » Sun Dec 02, 2007 5:52 am

I thought that Neobook Compress and Encrypt ?
It isn't true ?


Yes it is true.
I compress and encrypt (if you choose so for compile).

That means your source code is protected from other eyes.
But is does not protect for copying your EXE and steal it.
Therefor were tools like commercial protection software.
Or you code some neoscript to do similar things.
There were samples here on the forum.
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Postby Alex » Sun Dec 02, 2007 5:57 am

HPW, I don't understand, for example, if in my PUB I write :

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Setvar "[Number]" "1234"


If I Compil, Encrypt and Compress, can you see 1234 ?

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Postby HPW » Sun Dec 02, 2007 6:13 am

If I Compil, Encrypt and Compress, can you see 1234 ?


Where do you see it?

With a HEX editor viewing your EXE?
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Postby Alex » Sun Dec 02, 2007 6:33 am

I don't know !

I have a program and I want that no budy saw what happen in to the exe

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Postby HPW » Sun Dec 02, 2007 6:53 am

When you choose encrypt your script gets encrypted and it is no more visible inside a HEX editor.

So this allows some protection for the normal PC-user.

A professional hacker will be mostly able to crack it.
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Postby Alex » Sun Dec 02, 2007 7:10 am

Ok,

A cracker tell me that he used OllyDbg and IDA for cracking the program, what did he see ? Tey always say cracking, but cracking what ?

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Postby Neosoft Support » Mon Dec 03, 2007 12:54 pm

NeoBook's compression/encryption option is not intended to protect your software from hackers. Unfortunately, in my experience there is really very little you can do to prevent a motivated "professional hacker" from stealing your work. Hackers simply believe that being a computer programmer or software designer is not a legitimate way to make a living. You're better off concentrating on the millions of honest people who don't steal software.

I'm not sure if "professional hacker" is the right term. "Professional" implies that being a hacker is a legitimate respected career where one can earn a living. It certainly takes skill to hack software, but it serves no constructive purpose. It's like being a "professional safe cracker" or a "professional pick pocket." Hint: if you can't use your real name, you're probably not a professional anything.
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Postby Alex » Tue Dec 04, 2007 10:27 am

Hi Neosoft Support,

Thanks for your help.


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