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Windows 10 upgrade - browser problem

PostPosted: Wed Jul 29, 2015 4:56 am
by fkapnist
I just upgraded from Windows 7 to Windows 10 (with default Edge browser). When I try to run my Neobook application I get an error message saying: Requires Explorer 4+

What do I need to do now to get the application working and will my users be faced with the same inactive browser problem?

:?:

Re: Windows 10 upgrade - browser problem

PostPosted: Wed Jul 29, 2015 5:20 am
by stu
(?) I thought they were keeping IE... Or, what version of IE is on?

Re: Windows 10 upgrade - browser problem

PostPosted: Wed Jul 29, 2015 5:41 am
by fkapnist
They do keep Internet Explorer along with Edge browser, but apparently the user has to make some sort of selection in the control panel... I haven't figured it out yet. But I know my Neobook app users won't be bothered.... they'll probably just close the window and forget it.... The new browser was going to be called Spartan but they renamed it Edge so they could use the same 'e' desktop icon.....

:cry:

Re: Windows 10 upgrade - browser problem

PostPosted: Wed Jul 29, 2015 4:24 pm
by Neosoft Support
For some inexplicable reason, Microsoft decided to change how the IE version is detected in Windows 10*. We're planning to release a minor update to NeoBook shortly to correct this issue.

In the mean time, this post may be helpful in developing a work-around:

http://www.neosoftware.com/community/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=20784&p=11215616&hilit=ie7+compatibility+mode#p11215616


* Short of driving up to Redmond Washington with a baseball bat, what can you do?

Re: Windows 10 upgrade - browser problem

PostPosted: Wed Jul 29, 2015 4:47 pm
by fkapnist
Microsoft has to come out with an Edge Browser Object for developers... and real soon, because the IE object doesn't seem to work with Windows 10.

Back to the drawing board.... Here is some developer info specific to Microsoft Edge

https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/librar ... 85%29.aspx

:oops: :cry:

Re: Windows 10 upgrade - browser problem

PostPosted: Wed Jul 29, 2015 5:08 pm
by fkapnist
In other words, Microsoft Windows 10 just killed all existing Neobook apps that use the browser object. What a shame. I see this as equivalent to book burning, not progress at all...

Re: Windows 10 upgrade - browser problem

PostPosted: Wed Jul 29, 2015 6:39 pm
by Tony Kroos
Need independent browser engine? There were some Chromium plugins.

Re: Windows 10 upgrade - browser problem

PostPosted: Thu Jul 30, 2015 10:27 am
by Neosoft Support
We should be able to get it to work. There are hundreds (maybe thousands) of programs that use the IE browser component. Disabling that component in Windows 10 would be a huge disaster. I doubt even Microsoft would make a mistake that big.

Re: Windows 10 upgrade - browser problem

PostPosted: Thu Jul 30, 2015 11:09 am
by fkapnist
RE: "I doubt even Microsoft would make a mistake that big."

They have made some big mistakes and fell behind three years in the touch tablet industry. The only thing that saves them is a recent (a few days before the release of Win 10) malware vulnerability in Android .... over a billion smart phones can be hacked with a simple text message.... I wonder if that was part of a marketing sabotage... business as usual... lol

the forced IE Edge emulation in the Windows registry should work - but it doesn't (unless I am doing something wrong)

I stopped working on my Neobook application for a few months in anticipation of Win10.... I had a gut feeling it was not worth doing any development until the final release. I guess I was right....

:lol:

Re: Windows 10 upgrade - browser problem

PostPosted: Sat Aug 01, 2015 9:42 am
by Wrangler
A user just reported the first issue with the browser object in windows 10. Claims it won't print an html page stored locally. Hope a fix for this comes shortly.

Re: Windows 10 upgrade - browser problem

PostPosted: Mon Aug 03, 2015 2:14 am
by CN_Iceman
I also have several users reporting the problem.
I do not want to put pressure, but I need that update ASAP. :wink: :wink:

Re: Windows 10 upgrade - browser problem

PostPosted: Mon Aug 03, 2015 10:15 am
by Neosoft Support
A preliminary NeoBook 5.8.6 update patch to correct Windows 10 browser problems can be downloaded using the link below:

http://www.neosoftware.com/software/nbw586.exe

Recompiling your pubs with this version should fix Windows 10 issues. Please post your results here.

Release notes for v5.8.6:

 Made several modifications to the Web Browser object to correct compatibility issues with Windows 10. Problems were primarily caused by NeoBook incorrectly detecting the installed version of Internet Explorer due to changes in Windows 10. Also, removed the confusing “IE7 Compatibility Mode” option. The browser will now always attempt to use the installed version of IE.

 The [WindowsVer] global variable now returns the correct version numbers for Windows 8.1 and 10. (Note these are the internal version numbers assigned to each Windows version by Microsoft. For example: 5.1 for Windows XP, 6.0 for Vista, 6.1 for Windows 7, 6.2 for Windows 8, 6.3 for Windows 8.1 and 10 for Windows 10).

 Added [WindowsVerName] global variable which returns the published name of the installed version of Windows. For example: “Windows 10 Home”.

If no further Windows 10 problems are reported, we'll officially release the update later this week.

Re: Windows 10 upgrade - browser problem

PostPosted: Mon Aug 03, 2015 10:18 am
by Wrangler
Solved my customer's printing problem. Thanks!

Re: Windows 10 upgrade - browser problem

PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2015 8:15 am
by CN_Iceman
Thank's for the update.
I'll do some tests and put my results here.

Re: Windows 10 upgrade - browser problem

PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2015 8:51 am
by CN_Iceman
It seems that the problems have been solved.
Thank you very much NeoBook team for a quick fix.
Good job guys!!

BRAVO ZULU